![]() ![]() Again as my previous post is trying to imply Vegeta and what he accomplishes in the end is dictated by the narrative.The race is first encountered by Goku after the defeat of Frieza on Namek. It is your opinion I get that but every post of yours comes off as extreme exaggeration to say how awful Vegeta is so it feels like trolling even if that is not what you are trying to do.Ĭriticism is fine but it should be constructive not let me point out how everything about this character is just bad & stupid. ![]() Who's every decision went contrary to his stated goal of surpassing Goku.Įvery post of yours on here is about how awful Vegeta is. ![]() From that point on he became a total ignoramus. It was the "I never had a mentor" speech. I can pinpoint the moment he became trash. The point is he learned it to do it once to get back to Earth quickly and not make the Yadratians who had helped him break a rule of theirs. And while I doubt Vegeta following his own path means he will finally beat a main villain (yeah right ) maybe he will be able to contribute in meaningful ways that are different from Goku.Įdit: Also Vegeta would not have had time to Master IT to have made a difference in the Moro fight. The only difference is having Goku and Vegeta follow different paths makes it more interesting for us because at least we are seeing something different from each character. I guarantee if he mastered IT it would make no difference to this status quo. The series tries to pretend that is not the case but that is how he is treated in the narrative. Vegeta is basically set out to lose no matter what he does. No matter what decisions Vegeta makes he will always be behind Goku in the end because that is the status Quo the writers (whether it be Toyo, Toei or Toriyama) will always keep him at.Īs for Instant Transmission it is obvious Toyo just wanted Vegeta to do it once to be cool but wants to keep it as Goku’s signature move I always find it funny that people act if Vegeta copies Goku that he is going to somehow be equal or stronger than Goku because that worked in his favor before. So when Vegeta inevitably, repeatedly remains Goku's inferior and he jobs, what are we supposed to feel after Vegeta makes decisions like that? Are we meant to laugh? Goku will probably tease him over it, like "Oi Vegeta, you can still teleport, can't you? Heehee." It would be nice if they tie this back into Vegeta's ongoing growth - have him realise that failing to master IT was a bit of a detrimental decision in the long run. Like Goku has to be the only one who can teleport, because that's how it's always been.īut whatever, it's no big deal, what's done is done. To me, it does feel like Toriyama and Toyotaro were clumsily trying to maintain a sense of status quo, as Thani said. While Vegeta has been angsting about wanting to find his own path in life, which is great, relatable stuff, he's always been reasonably pragmatic when it comes to combat. By that logic, he might as well just abandon every other ki blast technique, every Super Saiyan form, since Goku did all of those first. Vegeta relentlessly trying to "go his own way" is all well and good, it's not exactly out-of-character, but it feels needlessly regressive for him to refuse to learn a useful move for no justifiable reason beyond "heh, I don't need anything you've got, Kakarot!" He's just making life more difficult for himself. Surely it makes more sense for Vegeta to understand that being able to do it solo will make him more independent from Goku? Vegeta always seems humiliated about having to grab hold of Goku's wrist or shoulder (no hand-holding!) whenever they have to teleport somewhere. Vegeta, supremely talented so-n-so he is, learns to get from Yardrat to Earth within a few minutes of instruction after mastering every other Spirit technique but arbitrarily decides he won't do it again even though he just showed he easily can. It's probably Goku's most practical technique, I mean, he can instantaneously move anywhere in the universe so long as he can detect a person's ki, as the name implies. Whichever way you look at it, teleportation is an insanely useful technique to have in any arsenal. ![]() Back when I first joined this forum, this made me have a minor meltdown in the main manga thread which I'm not proud of (apologies again Marlowe, I was going through some stuff at the time, I guess), but even after simmering down considerably, I still see the whole scene of Vegeta abandoning IT as facepalm-inducing. ![]()
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